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SecondGen
October 10, 2017, 12:38 PM
Hint: "I need you to take an oil sample."

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ElectricalTestTech
October 10, 2017, 07:11 PM
If I rotate the picture 180 degrees, I could take a sample. 😂

Machine Gun Kelly
October 15, 2017, 08:39 PM
Needs a sample valve in the bottom plug. Not a pipe plug.

Achandler
October 18, 2017, 09:58 AM
Hint: "I need you to take an oil sample."

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Whoops!

luhanson1
October 24, 2017, 10:20 PM
Hint: "I need you to take an oil sample."

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I came across the same thing on some transformers that were built for a local utility out here in California.

ksviveksiddarth
October 29, 2017, 10:23 AM
Hint: "I need you to take an oil sample."

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You have to open the highlighted (yellow) bolted dummy cover for the drain valve

ElectricalTestTech
October 29, 2017, 07:40 PM
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You have to open the highlighted (yellow) bolted dummy cover for the drain valve

Are you trying to get an air sample or an oil sample ksvivik?

ksviveksiddarth
October 31, 2017, 10:45 AM
Are you trying to get an air sample or an oil sample ksvivik?

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I thought your trafo could be a one similar to this ...


vivek..

Chipperk
June 26, 2018, 07:39 PM
Hint: "I need you to take an oil sample."

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Yup! Total crap! Pull a vacuum and put a valve in that bottom plug!

chils15
June 27, 2018, 12:52 PM
But they put the valve in facing down so no problem then

Dnjob123
August 9, 2018, 01:52 PM
Are you trying to get an air sample or an oil sample ksvivik?

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Depends on the type of insulating fluid, as we know, almost all samples are performed from the bottom because appart from "askarel" all other insulating fluids have a specific gravity lower than 1 (wlower than wter's SG) which will let the waer sit at the bottom but in older transformers with "Askarel" as Insulating fluid (with SG, of 1.3 - 1.5) the water is lighter which is why sample port is up top.

SecondGen
August 9, 2018, 02:26 PM
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Depends on the type of insulating fluid, as we know, almost all samples are performed from the bottom because appart from "askarel" all other insulating fluids have a specific gravity lower than 1 (wlower than wter's SG) which will let the waer sit at the bottom but in older transformers with "Askarel" as Insulating fluid (with SG, of 1.3 - 1.5) the water is lighter which is why sample port is up top.

This is a mineral oil transformer, plus the valve is above the liquid level (note the air plug).

Dnjob123
August 9, 2018, 02:34 PM
This is a mineral oil transformer, plus the valve is above the liquid level (note the air plug).
I see that, maybe I wasn't clear in my resonse. Let me take another stabb at this.

Looking at the attached picture and the relation of Specific Gravity to transformer sample port, my theory is that this Xfmr could've been manufactured using "Askarel" as insulating fluid (which will explain the sample port on top) till regulations changed and started discarding of these because its carcinogenic.

Beyond that, I will hate to say the engineers/manufacturers messed up lol

SecondGen
August 9, 2018, 02:37 PM
I see that, maybe I wasn't clear in my resonse. Let me take another stabb at this.

Looking at the attached picture and the relation of Specific Gravity to transformer sample port, my theory is that this Xfmr could've been manufactured using "Askarel" as insulating fluid (which will explain the sample port on top) till regulations changed and started discarding of these because its carcinogenic.

Beyond that, I will hate to say the engineers/manufacturers messed up lol

This was a brand new mineral oil transformer at the time of OP. Even if your theroy was correct, what good does a sample valve do when its above the liquid level? Are you supposed to stick a hose in there and suck it out with a syringe like a DGA?

Dnjob123
August 9, 2018, 03:05 PM
This was a brand new mineral oil transformer at the time of OP. Even if your theroy was correct, what good does a sample valve do when its above the liquid level? Are you supposed to stick a hose in there and suck it out with a syringe like a DGA?

I have to say, we need the rest of the picture lol because there probably is one(sample valve) on the right hand side but our good friend who took this just thought it was funny to crop it out (which by the way was :cool:)

Otherwise, someone messed up pretty bad #ouch

SecondGen
August 9, 2018, 03:22 PM
I have to say, we need the rest of the picture lol because there probably is one(sample valve) on the right hand side but our good friend who took this just thought it was funny to crop it out (which by the way was :cool:)

Otherwise, someone messed up pretty bad #ouch

I took the original picture with a phone and can assure you there was no other sample valve. Someone messed up.

Dnjob123
August 9, 2018, 03:23 PM
I took the original picture with a phone and can assure you there was no other sample valve. Someone messed up.

I agree