×
Follow Us
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 14

Correct procedure for de-magnetizing transformer cores

 Jump to latest post
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
    #1
  1. Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Posts
    14
    Reputation

    Correct procedure for de-magnetizing transformer cores

    What's the cause of a "magnetized" transformer and what's the correct procedure for de-magnetizing? I've been told you should de-magnetize each phase after doing winding resistance but another tech told me you can get away with doing a de-mag on only one phase. Also, what would happen if a magnetized transformer was re-energized?

  2. #2
  3. Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Posts
    48
    Reputation
    The magnetization is the current that satisfies the excitation condition of the transformer when the voltage is applied to the primary winding of the transformer with the secondary winding unloaded. You can calculate this current from the fundamental transformer equation.

    The easiest and most efficient way to demagnetize a transformer is by applying voltage in reverse polarity. You should demagnetize each phase.

    In practice, most Winding resistance testsets perform the demagnetization process automatically. I do not suggest grounding the transformer right after a test (in case you do not have a way to demagnetize the transformer) because it might cause eddy current.

    What you need to do is to reverse the polarity by reversing the test leads.

    There is this popular bad practice of grounding the transformer after winding resistance is performed which is not good.

    I suggest to google the terms "transformer fundamental equation", "demagnetization", "magnetic flux" or "magnetization" for a better understanding.

  4. #3
  5. Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Posts
    14
    Reputation
    Thanks, slts1991. Very informative post. Could you explain what would happen if you forget to demagnetize and then turn the transformer back on after testing?

  6. #4
  7. Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Posts
    14
    Reputation
    Still haven't been able to find an answer on this one after many months. Has anybody ever energized a transformer without first de-magnatizing? Could the transformer be damaged?

  8. #5
  9. Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    OH/MI
    Posts
    31
    Reputation
    Quote Originally Posted by randywright View Post
    Still haven't been able to find an answer on this one after many months. Has anybody ever energized a transformer without first de-magnatizing? Could the transformer be damaged?
    causes increased inrush currents (which can damage the unit if they exceed the fault current rating) that being said I have seen it done both ways many times without any noticeable ill effects. They do tend to be a touch louder upon re-energization however. This was in my earlier years, that being said we are currently practicing de-mag. on all units. I wouldn't advise energizing them without de-magnetizing first.

  10. #6
  11. Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Posts
    14
    Reputation
    Thank you for the info. Do you de-mag on each phase or can you do it once all testing is complete?


    Quote Originally Posted by lester mcmanaway View Post
    causes increased inrush currents (which can damage the unit if they exceed the fault current rating) that being said I have seen it done both ways many times without any noticeable ill effects. They do tend to be a touch louder upon re-energization however. This was in my earlier years, that being said we are currently practicing de-mag. on all units. I wouldn't advise energizing them without de-magnetizing first.

  12. #7
  13. Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    OH/MI
    Posts
    31
    Reputation
    Quote Originally Posted by randywright View Post
    Thank you for the info. Do you de-mag on each phase or can you do it once all testing is complete?
    We use a the tap box omicron makes. Hook up all 3 phases and run the demag when testing is complete

  14. #8
  15. Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Posts
    14
    Reputation
    i am only familiar with the megger single phase sets. some guys say you only have to do it on the last winding, other guys say you have to do it after each winding.

    Quote Originally Posted by lester mcmanaway View Post
    We use a the tap box omicron makes. Hook up all 3 phases and run the demag when testing is complete

  16. #9
  17. Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    OH/MI
    Posts
    31
    Reputation
    Quote Originally Posted by randywright View Post
    i am only familiar with the megger single phase sets. some guys say you only have to do it on the last winding, other guys say you have to do it after each winding.
    not sure why you would have to do it immediately after each test, I don't see how it would effect winding resistance on the remaining tests. we do it after all the tests are finished. you just want to do all your ac testing before the dc testing then demag.

  18. #10
  19. Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Posts
    48
    Reputation
    Quote Originally Posted by randywright View Post
    Still haven't been able to find an answer on this one after many months. Has anybody ever energized a transformer without first de-magnatizing? Could the transformer be damaged?
    I am sorry Randy but for some reason my email filters notifications from this website into the spam so I did not know if you replied or not. If you do not demag the transformer those eddy currents might still be present under energized conditions which eventually will damage winding's insulation.

    I am not saying that if you do not demag a xfmr it will blow up in a couple of years, but it is best to do so especially that the climate conditions wary in some cases and with the help of the eddy's it might create failure in time.
    If you energize the xfmr when you do not demag it will not create immediate noticeable damage.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Subscribe

Share this thread

Related Topics

  1. Safely discharge HV feeder using load break disconnect switch (procedure)
    By SecondGen in forum Safety and Arc Flash Talk
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: August 17, 2020, 01:08 PM
  2. Megger MIT Driver Installation Procedure (Windows 7)
    By SecondGen in forum Technical Documents
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: January 29, 2016, 09:53 AM
  3. Replies: 3
    Last Post: January 13, 2016, 01:39 AM

Tags for this Thread

Follow us


Explore TestGuy


NETA Certification Training


NICET Electrical Power Testing


Help and Support




You are viewing the archives. Enjoy new features and join the conversation at wiki.testguy.net